we conjured up, greta, we conjured up this fiscal cliff to make us deal with our nation's problems. we are still not going to do it. we are going to go into next year and, yes, the american people should be very disgusted. >> greta: i hold everybody in washington accountable for shoving us off that cliff. we are not falling off it you all are shoving us off it for not doing the job and if there is some deal forged about people who make $250,000 a year or less, it is because no one in this country wants to raise taxes on those people but you there has been some what of a dereliction of duty because you will delay the spending cuts which everyone agrees, are the republicans agree are important, you delay them because you haven't done your work and there is going to be no hammer to your heads to actually sit down and do it. like the immigration think that you are all so hucked up to handle a year ago and haven't done anything about. what in the world would be the -- what would possibly be the threat to you to get these spending cuts handled? >> well, first of all, i don't think that de